I found the following exposition of the Anglobitch Thesis on the Masked Writer's MRA website. He explains things in a clear, populist manner I can only aspire to:
Anglobitch Theory and Male Identity
An Overview of Anglobitch Theory
First of all, let us start with a partial explanation of the Anglobitch Theory obtained from the Anglobitch blog/website:
“the Anglobitch Thesis contends that the brand of feminism that arose in the Anglosphere (the English-speaking world) in the 1960s has an ulterior misandrist (anti-male) agenda quite distinct from its self-proclaimed role as ‘liberator’ of women. This derives from a distinct component in Anglo-Saxon culture, namely Puritanism. This puritanical undercurrent gives women an intrinsic sense of entitlement and privilege as ‘owners’ of sex in a cultural context where sex is a scarce commodity (we call this sense of entitlement ‘The Pedestal Syndrome’). Because of this, the advance of women’s ‘rights’ across the Anglosphere has not been accompanied by a corresponding reduction of their traditional privileges – indeed, those privileges have only broadened in scope and impact, leaving men only with obligations and women aglow with rights plus privileges. This has been accompanied by an obsessive vilification of men in the Anglo-American media, and across the Anglosphere generally.”
An interesting part of Anglobitch Theory is “the present debased condition of Anglo-American men not to be the product of recent agendas in politics and culture, but the ultimate expression of a centuries-old anti-male animus hardwired in traditional Anglo-Saxon culture.” This idea of the current manifestation of the misandrist nature of women in the English-speaking world being “hardwired” in them, supports the idea of a centuries-old social movement or undercurrent in the English-speaking world. In other words, it is a deeply ingrained part of the English-speaking world that won’t be rooted out of the culture without a revolutionary cultural-changing set of events. So, what does all of this have to do with male identity?
Well first, let us sum up some of the high points of the Anglobitch Theory which are:
–the man-hater nature of the so-called women’s movement
–the powerful institutionalized and cultural female entitlement system in the English-speaking world which includes the ‘The Pedestal Syndrome’
–the sexual power of women; i.e., the concious female creation of a scarcity of sex at certain levels so that it can be used as a tool to manipulate men for power/wealth
–the overwhelming saddling of men with financial and social obligations at the same time that their rights and privileges have been severely curtailed
Now, add to all of the above the following concept from the Anglobitch blog/website:
“In many respects, western males (and Anglosphere males in particular) have been reduced to mercenaries by feminism and sexual politics. They have no intimate connection to the nations in which they live, no longer raising families or taking any active social responsibility. This is especially true of middle-class males, who enjoy a nomadic existence as technical or commercial consultants while excluding themselves from social and civic life. According to Machiavelli, such a state of affairs will make the State brittle and prone to external overthrow, since mercenaries have no loyalty to any State or sovereign. “
Anglobitch Theory and Its Relationship to Male Identity
It should be obvious from the above that contemporary male identity in Western Culture is interconnected with a new male role type that is no longer intimately loyal to a hypergamous female population with its big bully enforcer the State. As males learn about and come to understand the Feminazi Power Structure which usually includes a man-hater government, complicit national/international media, ingrained brainwashing (female worship songs with female worship lyrics, “ladies first social norm,” etc.), family court enslavement and other institutionalized discrimination against males, they become increasingly, a la Anglobitch Theory, “reduced to mercenaries by feminism and sexual politics” which is a genre of male identity that may no longer feel loyal to any one nation, culture, family or any social entity in Western countries. It goes along with the theory that the “survival drive” is much stronger than the “sexual drive” in any male. When any male in a Western country starts to feel trapped within the walls of man-hater laws, a misandrist media, hypergamous women who use sex as a tool, a Feminazi family court system that steals his children and economically rapes him, it should be no surprise that a new survival-oriented male identity should arise that will be overwhelmingly mercenary in its nature. Yes, this is not good news to the Feminazis or to the security of Western countries which, a la Machiavelli, creates “such a state of affairs will make the State brittle and prone to external overthrow, since mercenaries have no loyalty to any State or sovereign.”
What’s a man to do?
We can see this new mercenary orientation when we consider what a man might do when confronted with the iron boot of a man-hater gynocracy. On an individual level, some of the alternatives a man may pursue when confronted with cold, hard Feminazi repression include:
–Boycotting marriage after realizing the cold, hard business side of government-controlled marriage
–Activism to change the man-hater government laws and anti-male media to alleviate its economic and social burdens on men
–Protection of a man’s assets from women (offshore solutions, don’t marry, other legal solutions, etc.)
–Having children in a non-Feminazi controlled country (avoiding the Feminazi Family Court control of his children)
–Relocating to a non-Feminazi controlled country where marriage and other relationships with women do not pose such a potential economic/legal danger as in Western gynocracies
Yes, the above short list of alternatives do point to the fact that a man’s reaction to the current oppression of men in gynocratic Western countries do include a mercenary orientation that pursues a need to survive and prosper with very little loyalty to a man-hater government, family ties, Feminazi culture, and a misandrist media.
Thursday, 16 February 2012
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Heheheh, one of funniest things I've heard so far this year: "the concious female creation of a scarcity of sex"
ReplyDeleteFace it, if sex is scarce it's because she doesn't find you attractive. There is no conspiracy. Life just ain't fair.
In most of the Anglosphere, prostitution is legal. In America, it is not. There is no good reason why this should be the case when adultery is widely sanctioned.
DeleteIt is also notable how Anglo feminists are at best indifferent to adultery by females and yet are strongly anti-prostitution. Why would this be, other than to restrict the sex available to most men?
Explain Harriett Harman's hysterical crackdown on newspaper ads for brothels and massage parlours in the UK, then. If that isn't "the concious female creation of a scarcity of sex" then what is?
DeleteAnd what about all that feminist 'trafficking' hysteria? An imaginary crime to 'manufacture consent' for the draconian repression of recreational sex.
Re: Anon 0525:
Delete"If there's a scarcity of sex it's because she doesn't find you attractive."
Does that explain why 90% of all American relationships fail on the woman's initiative? Does it explain the out-of-wedlock birth rate to thugs?
No---there seems to be no shortage of decent men in the Anglosphere. Just a shortage of women who want them. And it's hardly sexual attraction that drives Anglo-American females into the arms of metrosexuals and thugs. She's 'attracted' to such males because our culture preaches female supremacy/ superiority; feminine egomania overrides sexual feeling by a long shot.
Interesting blog, it further explains the "anglobitch" thesis. Women in the 'anglosphere' may have a hard wired predisposition that makes them hate men.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny, when you travel outside the 'anglosphere' you see just how friendly and nice the women are. The difference is night and day.
Also, the women are a lot easier to meet in non-anglo countries. Trying to meet women in anglo-countries is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics.
James Bond:
DeleteWomen in the Anglosphere are taught to regard men as enemies, rivals, and inferiors. A relationship to them only amounts to a 'power play'; proving to themselves that men are unnecessary and dependent.
How many women would want a man who considered all women as 'pigs'; and fought tooth-and-nail with them to 'prove' themselves better wives and mothers than women? None would; but that's what Anglo-American women expect men to lie down and take passively.
Foreign women are striving to be good women and I've heard more than one of them laugh and shake their heads over the stupidity of Anglobitches.
Western women (especially in the Anglo sphere) are the world's worst. I hope day men en mass outright reject them. These vile creatures deserve to die alone and unloved only to be found months later in their apartments with their cats feeding off their dead carcases. lol
DeleteI'm an 'anglo-feminist' (geographically speaking) and I strongly support prostitution, so long as the women realise the value of their work, demand high fees and don't allow some lazy-ass pimp to siphon off most of her hard earned cash.
ReplyDeleteA surfeit of cheap, damaged sluts offering sex for a pittance will ensure very low fees and a general reduction of women's sexual bargaining power, I think you'll find. Thailand is a good example of that. Why else do feminists invoke the trafficking delusion whenever legalisation is mentioned?
DeleteThe vile attitudes the average western woman has made them very unappealing to say the least. Men are slowly waking up and with large amounts of anglo women entering the work force via prostitution it will indeed lower the price on their already overpriced poons. Imagine Anglo bitches being reduced to having to jack guys off for a mere bowl of rice and beans. lol I love it.
Delete"I'm an 'anglo-feminist' (geographically speaking) and I strongly support prostitution, so long as the women realise the value of their work, demand high fees and don't allow some lazy-ass pimp to siphon off most of her hard earned cash."
DeleteSo you think that 5 minutes of satisfaction is worth "high fees"? In that case, I'm for shoe designers, as long as they realize the value of their work, price their sweatshop-made goods so high the average woman can't afford them and don't allow some lazy ass woman into the board of directors to siphon off most of their hard earned cash.
You're not making any sense, sweetheart - shoe designer, sweatshop and consumer? I don't think you quite understand the dynamics of the prostitute/ pimp/ 'client' relationship.
DeleteBut nonetheless - yes, I believe sex workers should demand a huge amount for their services. It is an odd (but compelling) fact that a desperate man will choose to pay for sex, rather than simply masturbate. This indicates that sex, for men, is not a physical need but a matter of self esteem.
Sex for men isn't simply the mechanism of physical stimulation followed by ejaculation and satisfaction, but in fact, a neediness for female approval and companionship (even if it is paid for - these women are brilliant at feigning affection).
For other men, a momentary sense of power can be gained from paying a woman who might let him do to her whatever he wishes. These are males who would otherwise resort to rape (an act of violence, control and hatred NOT thwarted physical-sexual desire).
These women provide an incredible service at considerable risk and should be rewarded accordingly.
"Boycotting marriage after realizing the cold, hard business side of government-controlled marriage"
ReplyDeletegovernment controlled marriage?
BS
Women control marriage because of the government and the laws it has made.
Lack of female responsibility strikes again.
So boycott marriage, then. Except you can't boycott something that isn't available to you in the first place.
ReplyDeleteMarriage? What's that? Boycotting marriage is like boycotting winged sheep. Marriage is just a cultural relic for rich people, like religion (its first cousin).
DeleteVery well put.
DeleteI want to have a little girl as a bride. The only way to reliably have a non-feminist female of your own is to have a very young girl. A cute sweet nice one that grows up married to you.
ReplyDelete(Marraige as in what it is in the ancient languages: woman who is mastered, or just girl or woman with a man, they didn't have the word "marraige" or anything like that)
Please can I have a little girl somehow?
Geez, what a goofball.
DeleteWhy am I a goofball? Should I convert to muslimism?
DeleteOn the term 'feminazi'...
ReplyDeleteThe writer obviously hasn't heard that in academic circles at least, if you compare anything you're criticising to the Nazis, you effectively kill the argument. It is a cardinal sin and you will be ridiculed.
Anon0623:
DeleteConsidering that most academics are only a stone's throw from being outright Nazis themselves, it shouldn't be surprising that they sneer at use of that term. This kind of thing is part of the cultural dumbing-down which academia engages in; and really, their opinions don't matter very much to any serious scholar/ thinker.
"The writer obviously hasn't heard that in academic circles at least, if you compare anything you're criticising to the Nazis, you effectively kill the argument. It is a cardinal sin and you will be ridiculed."
DeleteIn academic circles,they usually spend most of their day engaging in mental masturbation and cobbling together the sentiments of people a hell of a lot more intelligent than them in order to appear intelligent themselves,and then wanking some more.
A little riddle: Tell a country where an ugly, old premature, disabled and sick woman ‘rewards’ two male teenagers with sex, alcohol and other amenities after they finished doing a vandalism act ordered by her on the new lover her former husband has. The action is repulsive by itself, and tells a lot about a mentally disordered person, but more important, how domed and alienated young boys are in that country to accept such rewards (are they that desperate?) Yes, you got it: England! http://goo.gl/5RMPE
ReplyDeleteAnother one: Tell a country where an ugly, obese, ridiculous and old woman flashes her boobs to a TV camera transmitting live. She knows that her own image is grotesque, so, you conclude that the attitude behind such action is defiant. ‘Look, men, this is the kind of women available here. Take it or leave it! And if you leave it our society as a whole will make it sure you will take it, whether you like or not! Yes, you got it: the USA! http://goo.gl/g5OcJ
Common denominator of both countries: A misandrist environment deep rooted in both countries culture that due basically to the amenities of modern life (like the pill and urban life) just exploded and no longer could have been hold it by the former status quo.
Santiago
DeleteWow, what an ugly bunch of old boots. In Russia or Thailand, they would be selling socks, not sex.
Something else unique about the Anglosphere, especially England: scowling women. Victoria Beckham is a perfect example. Imagine being poor Becks, getting up every day to look at her hard, vicious, unsmiling face. English women are so mean and selfish that even smiling is an effort! Living in London, you see these glaring, bitter females every day. This isn't the Gamers' Bitch Shield, either - this is a permanent condition.
Rookh wrote:
ReplyDelete"Something else unique about the Anglosphere, especially England: scowling women. Victoria Beckham is a perfect example. Imagine being poor Becks, getting up every day to look at her hard, vicious, unsmiling face. English women are so mean and selfish that even smiling is an effort! Living in London, you see these glaring, bitter females every day. This isn't the Gamers' Bitch Shield, either - this is a permanent condition."
I hear you Rookh, I know exactly what you are talking about when you say "scowling women" we have a lot of them here in the USA. I live in Chicago and believe me, the more attractive the woman is, the more she 'scowls' at men.
I have heard a lot of guys in the UK, the USA, Canada and Australia say the same thing about women who walk around with that "scowl look" on their face.
James Bond:
DeleteI live in Seattle, and I've noticed the same thing. A lot of foreign men tell me that American women 'give off hatred of men like radiation."
Whenever I've been in non-Anglo countries, I always feel like it's safe to approach women. Here, they cause men to recoil; no matter how attractive they look outwardly, they still feel the same by just their 'auras'.
We live in a society where women are often accused of 'asking for it'. If you're friendly towards a man and then refuse a date, you're a tease. Friendliness is almost always confused with flirtation.
DeleteI'm no beauty and I'm quite shy so I keep myself well covered up, but I've lost quite a few of my male friends after I refused their advances. I've been asked out by men at least 10 years older (I'm sorry, I just don't find older men attractive) than I am - 'perhaps', I think, 'it's because I smiled or laughed at his jokes'.
You become wary and you learn through experience that it's best to scowl or appear rude or even avoid eye contact in order to avoid embarassment, confusion, or even sexual assault. Sad, isn't it?!
Why don't women outside the Anglosphere scowl all the time, then?
DeleteAnon 00:20 just admitted the exact reasons why they are called anglo-bitch.
DeleteYour "progressive" politics
Gifted them delicate sensibilities.they're not women. They see themselves as delicate dolls that only thrive in the most perfect conditions.
Powerplay is right. Why indeed are women outside the anglosphere friendlier?
Make no mistake though. They have access to that post by anon 00:20 and think they deserve the same conditions. Knowledge is indeed power and it requires restraint to wield it
That poor Becks! With all his money, his fame and his youth, and he just could land that thing called Victoria from Harlow, Essex. I guess he couldn't resist the charming of the first non-fat English woman he ran into. With a tenth of his money I would already be in Rio, managing my own harem.
ReplyDeleteYes, settling for Victoria certainly suggests a certain poverty of sexual imagination on Becks' part. I can picture a large private yacht permanently anchored off Rio, jiggling breasts popping from tight swim-suits and semen glistening on bloom-pulped lips. Becks, however, prefers a scowling stick-insect. An Omega Anglo male masquerading as an Alpha, methinks.
DeleteKind of telling that British GQ invariably votes him 'man of the year', isn't it? Anglo models of manhood are unmanly, at best.
In an Islam country he maybe would have married an adorable 6 or 8 year old girl, and they always put the khol eyeliner on the girls no matter how young they are.
Delete"That's pretty makeup you got there"-- American solider in Iraq talking to 2 really young girls.
Muhammed married a little girl. Isn't that a good example for men. He thought she was the best of his wives. Also in the Bible there is marrying and taking young little girls too. You really have to read it in the hebrew to know this (why is that?...)
Rookh, what do you think?
Young girls look like cute toys often. How do the soliders in afghanistan and iraq not go crazy?
David Beckham looks pretty ropey these days - horrible crows feet and all-round leathery, wrinkly skin. Besides, his wife made him rich and famous.
DeleteWhat I don’t really get is the state of denial in which conservatives and common sense people live in about all of this (supposing that they are the most interested in changing things).
ReplyDeleteWhat conservatives claim is this: ‘The old deal was not perfect but it worked. Women exchanged sex (poor and scarce) for economic security inside marriage. Men exchanged economic security (a very good one, since Anglo-Saxon men are, or were, the most economically successful people around the World) for sex inside marriage. And the whole thing collapsed when liberal, socialist and communist policies were introduced by the State with the overwhelming support of most of the population. Due to these policies women no longer needed economic security provided by men but by the State (of course financed by men through taxes). The State is the new women’s sugar daddy, and that’s why men are no longer needed, but to be mistreated and exploited by a misandrist legal system’.
If this is true, how come Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe in general have become the oasis in which real alpha males (those who don’t accept the shit sandwich dished up to them in the US, England, Canada, Australia, etc., and not the guys who flood the PUAs’ blogs) are travelling to for sexual adventure or looking for wives? We are talking about countries where at least four generations live in a real communist system where egalitarism was the everyday soup, and yet Soviet women never were the fat, entitled and horrendous bitches Anglo women are now. Quite the opposite, the Soviet system encouraged young girls to do sports like gymnastics or practice feminine arts like ballet, while the stoic Slav masculinity was expected in young men. Even today, when Socialism is officially dead in those countries, large institutions of the old communist system are still alive and working (public health, public education, public housing, etc.) and people are not willing just to drop them in favor of the market. So, it’s not socialism what caused the ruin of the old deal.
Well said and true Santiago.
DeleteIf conservatives are right, how come the same socialist policies haven’t had the same effects in the rest of the EU countries? The rest of the European countries have the same liberal policies, and yet you find a different environment in the male-female relationships. Have you ever been to France? This is a socialist country by any standard. French people just love the State providing for everything. And I am not talking about the big cities, go to the countryside, to places like Camargue. French farmers are real Welfare State darlings, cashing benefits for everything and never, ever it’s enough for them. Have they become feminized and their women are out of control? No, actually you find a very chauvinistic, masculine, ‘macho’ environment. What about the Netherlands, Germany, Italy (well, Italy!)? Of course feminism and liberalism have introduced some disruptions in these societies, but nothing like the kind of things you see in the Anglosphere.
ReplyDeleteSo, what happened? I think the turning point was the coming of the pill and the accelerated urbanization. If a method to control pregnancy was finally available, and the new big cities provided anonymity English women could have focused on their real likes: Assholes. If you have a culture which contempts the average young, decent, reliable and nice guy, female hipergamy does the rest. A woman needs and looks for a higher male, so a woman who depicts the nice guy is going to crave and love only the brutal thug who is going to treat her like shit. Yes, liberalism, feminism and socialism could have boosted the phenomenon but the seed was there just waiting the time to flourish.
As for the solution. Well, I am optimistic about the US. American system is not perfect by far, but it has a virtue: It’s pragmatic and evolves quickly. I think one single change in one state can create a domino effect. A state abolishing marriage or abolishing paternity trials or demanding paternity tests for every newborn (I guess Kentucky is about to pass a bill like that), etc. As soon as this happens other states will follow suit and the whole society would have to think twice many cultural issues.
ReplyDeleteAs for England I think you are done. Problem is that English men are at the bottom of the barrel on every sense. When you have a system that grants natural-God-given rights to a class (royalty) to exploit the rest of the society and glorifies and wraps such state of affairs in an idyllic, asexual and puritan environment, you don’t have much room to change things. That’s why I don’t get the English men enthusiasm for his political system.
A last detail. Have you ever browsed the site www.alt.com? Well it’s an online dating community for people who likes to practice BDSM. Aside from everyone’s opinion about these sexual practices, it’s interesting to note the proportion between number of subscribers and the population by country. The number of English women (and also American) who want to be mistreated, beaten up and trashed by thugs is simply APPALLING! While in other countries like Russia and Brazil (where misandry is absent) this number is minimum. Maybe we have found a good and practical index to see how much feminized a country is. You can check out by yourselves just open a free account in just a minute. Even better, write down a raw profile, the nastier the better, and wait for the interesting responses.
Santiago
DeleteEven within the Anglosphere. English people are renowned for their repression/perversion. I can tell that working in England had a major effect on you and I think I know why: England is the nexus of erotic dysfunction.
Yes, the 'conservative' arguments of reactionary MRAs like Angry Harry are ridiculous. Countries like France/Germany/Russia have (or have had) Big State socialist government, yet none of these countries are full of scowling, misandrist women. I think the answer is this: culture is far more important than politics.
I saw The Social Network recently and it occurs to me that we are doing something that has never been possible before: engaging in authentic cross-cultural discussion. Our specific topic is gender-relations but what we are doing represents a paradigmatic shift at a much deeper level: the creation of a new perspective on these crucial issues. Americans, Canadians, Brits, Australians and people from outside the Anglosphere are exchanging opinions for the first time, creating an online 'community of interest'. People like Roissy and Angry Harry are good at what they do but they haven't really internalized the supra-national potential of the Internet, as yet.
Anon0420:
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting that. We men need these occasional reminders of why Anglo-American women aren't worth getting involved with.
Talking about scowling women, I guess Kelsey Donkin is a point in case. I just want someone to tell me that this is the lowest of the lowest, that you have reached the bottom and that England is not going to fall any deeper. No? It can get worse? Shit! Or as you say in England: Shite!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9114927/PC-David-Rathband-policeman-blinded-by-gunman-Raoul-Moat-found-dead-at-his-home.html
You're absolutely right about the "scowling" "misandrist" women in English speaking countries. I'm single and have no intentions on marrying and breeding with the typical western woman. They lack nurturing ability and their general attitudes stink. Simply put - if I have to wash my own clothes,cook my own food, clean my own place,and etc then why do I need them for? I can always relieve myself sexually if need be. Anglo women (and western women in general) have priced themselves out of the market - in more ways than one. Yes, the system helped made it this way too. Feminism is just one of the many tools used via social engineering to bring us to the brink of utter social chaos that we're not too far from facing now.
ReplyDeleteYep, and most women now think "if I have to wash his clothes, cook his food, clean up after him, what do I need HIM for?"
DeleteI remember the moment I became a feminist - it was when by-then worn out, angry, bitter grandmother told me I had to learn to cook, clean and wash clothes for my future husband. I was only 11. Looking at the men in her life, I felt a profound sense of doom.
She treated my grandfather like a king and her sons like princes. In return she received a meagre housekeeping, and a husband who spent his leisure hours laying on the sofa chain-smoking and drinking whisky. Two of her 4 sons became alcoholics, 3 of them divorced. One of those used to beat his wife and subsequent girlfriends and hasn't been employed for more than 30 years. My own father was convicted of drink-driving aged 17, filed for bankruptcy 20 years later, couldn't hold down a job, and kept moving us around interrupting our education. When I objected to being moved back to England whilst half way through my Scottish Highers, my grandmother told me that if I didn't do as I was told, my dad was going to kill himself. I always hoped my mother would leave him, but she would never divorce. Hers, thankfully, is the last generation of women that will unquestioningly dedicate themselves to their husbands.
Rightly or wrongly, what I learned from my old-fashioned family was that men are burdensome, lazy, controlling, spoiled, aggressive, jealous, pathetic.
I am lucky enough to have met educated, self-sufficient men who have proved me wrong.
While I sympathise with your experiences, I don't believe that these "every person for themselves" relationships you advocate will last. I say this because my father was a bank manager who could certainly cook and take care of himself. My father's ex-wife was also a selfish, adulterous individual who didn't care for her sons. Their marriage dissolved after 10 years because her behaviour didn't change (it actually worsened).
DeleteIn contrast, my mother (from Malaysia) cooks for my Dad (voluntarily), who brings home the bacon. Their marriage is over 26 years old now (and counting).
Basically, women NEED men to bring home the bacon. This shouldn't be the case in the Anglosphere; AW are theoretically capable of looking after themselves financially because their job opportunities are now extensive. However, they are often unable to because of children or because of self-destructive spending habits. This applies even in a dual-income household, especially since their income is less than the man's.
YOU might be self-sufficient and excellent with money (my mother is too), but I don't believe that your ideas of a good relationship would suit most women for any number of reasons (cultural, current circumstances etc.).
I also pointed out below that if you're not attached to a man, you're probably attached to an employer who not only expects a LOT out of you (time, productivity), but almost certainly doesn't care that much about you. Is that a great situation to be in? I mean, relatively few men LOVE working even in workaholic places like Japan.
I hate welmer and the spearhead faggots. They cencor and delete anything I post. Fucking shitheads. I'm glad what negative things happen to them. They side with women to some extent: they are goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood men and are proud of it. I hope someone takes their site down aswell as them. I hope welmer ends up with his life more ruined than it is now.
ReplyDeleteI hate good men.
Anon0342:
ReplyDeleteI think you should stop trolling here; go to Afghanistan and verify your theories personally. If you come back alive, please report back here with your findings.
Santiago/Rookh:
ReplyDeleteI had occasion recently to listen to a 'social conservative' self-styled relationship expert on the radio recently. (I'm in the US). It was pathetic listening to the callers (mostly female). One female caller asked how she could get motivated to have sex with her husband. (Who but American women would ask questions like these?) The host replied that her husband 'probably did things for her that he didn't feel like doing too.' Wouldn't it be a joy to be married to someone like that? LOL
An hours worth of listening to American 'relationship advice' is good to keep men on the right track; the right track being the one that leads away from the Anglobitch!
These conservative, old-fashioned women are what you're asking for - a good wife who will do anything for you (without a scowl) without question. She married you not because she loves you, but because ecomically independent, unmarried women are discriminated against. Joyless sex is what she endures for the happiness of her unattractive, unsexy, domineering husband and to maintain a roof over her head.
DeleteOne day, the husband notices she is dead behind the eyes, calling up radio stations for advice on how not to feel disgusted by the idea of sex with him.
Be careful what you wish for, because this is the truth of a world without feminism.
Anon april 7, 2012 i am okay with that arrangement. That is the definition of a woman knowing her place. I'd trade a few cows and goats for that arrangement
DeleteAnon0736:
ReplyDeleteNot only are you an obnoxious troll; you're a complete idiot. Anglo-American women are not the way the are because of their maturity and adult sense of responsibility; their problems stem largely from the fact that our culture paralyses their mental/emotional development in childhood. The Amazon, man-hating feminist is someone who never grew up from the time when most little girls hate boys and want to be tomboys. The Anglo-Puritan spoiled, selfish Entitlement Princess has never progressed beyond their pre-pubescent fantasies of actually being a princess. Real women mature out of these mindsets, Anglo-American women are held there most of their adult lives.
Also, your ridiculous romanticizing of harems filled with child-brides is completely out of touch with reality. You keep quoting passages from the Old Testament; maybe you should read it a little more carefully. All those stories of the Israelite patriarchs are rife with the jealousies, intrigues, and in-fighting among their families. I know men who've been to Arabia; they tell me it's no different today with the sheiks and their harems.
Part of the other problem is, that you don't understand even elementary psychology. Before puberty, children are not capable of abstract thought and reasoning. Ever wonder what happens after your idealized child-bride hits about 12 years old? She'll have a mind of her own---literally.
You're basically living in a fantasy-world and giving the rest of the men's movement a bad name with your arrant stupidity.
Anon0552/0559 (Evidently the same person):
ReplyDeleteIf these kinds of tirades are characteristic of what you publish, let's hope that's 'good insight' enough!
Still, I noticed you were too busy screaming to answer the core question: Are Anglo-American basically too mature and too responsible? Is that what you're arguing?
I think that most Anglo-American women's problems stem from the fact that they never grow up mentally or emotionally. Keeping them in a child-like state of mind until they're well into their 20s has turned them into chronically rebellious, self-centered, narcissistic bitches. And it doesn't sound like you've progressed too much, either.
Rookh:
ReplyDeleteI heard a report on the news yesterday that 20% of American women are using prescription antidepressants. I mentioned this on another blog, but it's worth repeating here: just look at these numbers relating to American women:
20% are on prescription psychiatric drugs
33% are chronically obese;
about 30-40% have had abortions;
25% have children outside marriage (not counting those are single but divorced).
The functional illiteracy rate is estimated at nearly 40%; and the average US female watches 7 hours of television per day.
This might explain why they're scowling all the time LOL---either constipated, over-medicated, or away from the TV too long! It definately explains why a larger and larger percentage of wives are foreign-born.
What's wrong with having children outside of marriage, exactly? Fucking backward conservatives!
DeleteIt's not so much about having children outside marriage, it's WHO you have your children with (married or otherwise). That being said, I think that having children out of wedlock is worse in the Anglosphere.
DeleteFor instance, the 'bad boy' craze is the most prevalent in the Anglosphere simply because AW are (much?) more likely to gravitate to them than girls from elsewhere. My personal experiences tell me this as well.
Hence, having children outside of marriage becomes problematic in this context because the 'bad boy' can bolt more easily, leaving behind a struggling mother and disadvantaged children.
I have removed the pedophile comments. They might attract negative attention from feminists.
ReplyDeleteWhy? Shows that you are just the same as the anglo-culture that you criticize. Happily the muslims will take over, and they're fine with men marrying young and little girls.
DeleteHe removed your comments because feminists can come in (a lot of them do anyway), look at your comments and go "this blog condones paedophila (which child marriage is largely construed as being in the West)" and then complain to Google (Blogspot owners), who'd probably terminate this blog for violating their terms and conditions. Hence, it is perfectly reasonable to remove such comments to preserve this blog. Besides, they distract from this website's purpose, which is to critique the Anglosphere's attitudes towards women. I don't see how marrying little girls helps this one way or the other.
DeleteAt any rate, the Muslim world is quite vast and even in the more fundamentalist areas (Yemen and Saudi Arabia), the practice is becoming increasingly controversial. Yemen formally bans marrying anyone younger than 15-16, whilst Saudi Arabia is considering enacting legislation against it:
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/07/25/159321.html
It must also be said that in previous centuries, people did not live nearly as long so child marriage made slightly more sense (and WASN'T restricted to Islam - it still occurs in Hindu India although it is currently being stamped out). That's not the case now.
Don't worry, the paedophile comments have been duly noted by the feminists - we weren't remotely surprised, of course!
DeleteSo you think that all anti-feminist men are paedophiles based on the rantings of one lunatic whose posts were removed (and who was rightly derided by everyone else here)?
DeleteMakes perfect sense...
*sarcasm*
anon0302:
ReplyDeleteRookh just removed your stupid comments. Try spouting your BS in some Islamic State and they'll remove your stupid head as well!
Anon0906:
ReplyDelete"Be careful what you wish for, this is the world without feminism"
A world without feminism would be one where men and women actually loved one another again and women didn't hate men and treat men like enemies.
That entire description you gave of a relationship with a traditional woman could only be conjured up by a mind infused with the hatred of men. You can't even envision a relationship outside of terms that don't involve alleged male exploitation.
Hear,hear. Everything is a goddamn power struggle to them. What the fuck is wrong with feminists? Can't people have a picnic without some mental deficient claiming being politely ASKED (not forced) to make egg salad is a form of slavery?
DeleteAny man you can't make his own egg salad is evidentally a retard or a mummy's boy. It's infantile, this want, want, want. Learn to look after yourself, it's for your own good. That's love.
DeleteLove? No it isn't. It's just selfishness on the AW's part. Basically, if they aren't willing to do nice things for other people (people they supposedly care about), what kind of people are they? What good are they in a relationship? What do they contribute if the man is expected to "bring home the bacon"? Some might contribute a dual income, but it is almost always less than the man's, plus AW are often poor with money anyway.
DeleteMoreover, does anyone find it ironic that AW consider cooking for their partner 'slavery' yet find it 'empowering' to work a soul-destroying job for some faceless employer?
Here's a question for all the scowling, frosty Anglo-American women: why are your scowls only reserved for decent men? I don't see much attempt to be so cold around thugs, bums, or street vermin.
ReplyDeleteHow can you tell a nice guy from a thug? Best to be safe and not give any man the wrong idea by being friendly. From my point of view, any man who is anti-feminist is scum - a Raoul Moat in the making.
DeleteHow? Simple; thugs generally have a certain 'look' about them that 'nice guys' lack. It is true that many AM pretend to be thugs, but they do this by doing stereotypically thuggish things (getting tattoos, behaving like idiots etc.). Why do they do this? Because being a normal, functional human being doesn't get you AW.
DeleteActually, Moat himself fits this description - an angry, hulking man who proved himself to be a murderer before committing suicide. He had a young girlfriend despite (because of?) his failings.
Besides, feminists accusing anti-feminist men of being would-be murderers is sheer projection given feminism's ugly history with abortion and certain feminists advocating gendercide.
Anon0237:
ReplyDelete"How can you tell a nice guy from a thug? Best to be safe and not give a guy the wrong idea by being friendly."
Only someone with a deep-seated hatred of men could write something like that. Imagine if someone asked: "how can you tell a traditional woman from a slut?"
"Any man who is anti-feminist is scum."
Most feminist men I know of are complete scum. Government, media, and academia are full of such examples. Manginas in power are some of the most ruthless bullies imaginable.
DaRick:
ReplyDeleteYemen repealed it's ban on child marrige of girls.
The fact that you are happy that it's being stamped out from the world proves that you are someone who should be killed. If I could drop a line on you for some muslim terrorist to pull taught I would. If I could do so for your whole family who all are opposed to men marrying little girls, I'd have your whole family killed. If I could wipe out all of the people who subscribe to your culture, I would do so.
As for muslim countries who would cut off the heads of men who said they'd like to marry little girls: those muslim countries need to be nuked, or atleast have their ruling eliete and other "good-people" murdered.
I hate you. I am glad that "the feminists" ruin your life. You deserve eachother. You both wish to restrict men. You argue over just what he should be allowed to do. You imagine to be his master.
And Kshatriya: You'll never find happiness with a woman, nor will any man.
Happiness can come from young girls. No adult will revive you. Oil does nothing to reduce the harshness of oil when mixed with oil... and what fool would ever think it would.
Anon:
ReplyDeleteLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
You're a coward and a keyboard warrior - you probably wouldn't have the balls to say that to my face even if you wanted to. The fact is, you COULDN'T get a Muslim terrorist to kill me because (as you admit yourself above) you are a non-Muslim and they are unlikely to respond to directives from non-Muslims (whom they broadly consider infidels). They're probably more likely to see you as a useful idiot to be used to further whatever agendas they have, not an ally.
I would also point out that said Islamic terrorists would more likely pursue YOU if you attempted to marry an Islamic child bride right now, given that you aren't a Muslim. They're not that likely to target me for the time being - I'm too far away and of too little threat.
It also seems that "the feminists" have done far more to ruin your life than they have my own, given your crying out for a young child bride and them being vociferously opposed to such things. Unlike you, I don't have any plans to marry any child brides, so I honestly don't give a damn about what they do regarding them (there is no equivalent to IMBRA in my country). In fact, if they do more of it to annoy fascist lunatics like you, great. I'd be all for it.
Oh yes, about the Yemeni law: they've dropped it for now, but they're still negotiating to pass it.
Like I said before, child marriage may've had a practical purpose in previous centuries, when people led shorter lives. I don't see the point now. Besides, that girl bride you so cherish will become a dreaded woman one day. Even worse (for you), being with you could mentally age her prematurely.
Besides, if you want to marry a child, why not try an Anglo woman? As others here have pointed out, they pretty much behave like retarded hothouse children anyway (unfortunately, the laws here often treat them as such).
I would also like to add that there aren't only two cultures in this world: one that opposes what you believe and what you don't. The Anglo culture is scarcely my known and Anglo feminists hate me. In fact, fascists like you hate me generally. I consider that a compliment. You have more in common with them than you like to admit. Both of you preach murder of the innocent and also of perceived threats - witness the comments from prominent feminists saying that men should be reduced to 10% for breeding stock.
ReplyDelete"my own"
DeleteOh I forgot, both of you preach hate a lot. Why? Because it fills both your heart and theirs.
ReplyDeleteDaRick:
ReplyDeleteWell-said. The shaming language and whining that Troll Boy indulges in almost make Anglobitches look benign by comparison!
Granted, Anglo-Puritanism has artifically enforced extended childhoods and pushed the so-called 'age of consent' to a ridiculously high age; but no sane person believes that pre- pubescent children, of either gender, are suitable marriage partners or able to accept adult responsibilities. If, for example, somebody went to court trying to enforce a contract signed by a 7 year-old the judge would throw him out the courtroom on his ass. How much more when an issue like marriage is at stake?
Contrary to what Troll Boy rages about us 'good people': it has nothing to do with good or evil---it has to do with protecting civilization from those who would exploit and prey upon the vulnerable.
Anon:
DeleteThanks for your support man. I appreciate it.
The age of consent in America isn't TOO ridiculous (16-18 in most areas); what IS ridiculous is how AW are treated like children even into middle-age (witness criminal court rulings)! That's a different issue, though.
Yes, child marriages are situations ripe for exploitation (allowing this is evil by itself, honestly). I fail to see their purpose in today's world, when people are broadly living longer than ever (even in the places where this stuff is most prevalent). Besides, they don't evidently help stem the tide of Islamic terrorists so beloved by Adolfsama up there.
Sup Adolfsama.
DeleteI only care about 'female liberty' (whatever the fuck that means) insofar as exploitation of children is prevented.
Then again, why am I bothering to respond to you? You're just an irrational fascist lunatic - just like the feminists you claim to hate.
DaRick:
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome and thanks for the feedback. I think the lowest AOC in the US is 14, but if a lot of my hyper-puritan countrymen had their way, the AOC would be 25. It's already been raised to 21 for 'adult' activities like buying alcohol, legal gambling or prostitution (in some localities, 21 for buying pornography). I even knew of a returning, decorated Iraq war veteran who wasn't allowed to purchase a firearm because he wasn't 21.
To my mind, though, age of consent should be a matter of choice; and children below the age of puberty can't make rational choices. It's been proven scientifically that the human mind isn't capable of abstract reasoning until puberty. Most child-marriages are products of cultures that are predicated on slavery (it's practised throughout most of Moslem Asia); the wives are in harems, and basically groomed from childhood to be domestic/sexual slaves. That's why---just like Bobblehead up there--- they want to kill anyone they can't subjugate.
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