Friday 2 August 2019

The Great Adultwork Eye-Opener: Is 'The Wall' just another expression of Sexual False Consciousness?

The Wall: Does it really exist exist in the Anglosphere?

One of the main Manosphere debating points is SMV (Sexual Market Value): in particular, the respective SMVs of men and women in relation to ageing. Broadly speaking, MGTOWs and PUAs maintain that male SMV peaks somewhat later and that this gives men a certain advantage over 'post-Wall' women in adult life. Meanwhile, Incels and TFLers maintain that the Wall is a myth created to palliate the Anglosphere's growing army of sexless men. 

The chart below is widely used to support the MGTOW/PUA/MRA perspective, although it is often cited by both sides of the debate:




An obvious problem with this chart is that Female and male SMVs are clearly not equivalent, even at their respective peaks. Using the same measurement scale, male SMV is at best a 4 relative to the female's 10 because male and female SMV have nothing like the same value. There are very few male escorts catering to women (if any), while thousands of women sell sex to males every day. Moreover, virtually all young women enjoy the benefits of high SMV compared to a tiny minority of males. These objections aside, it does seem fairly obvious that a middle aged woman is far less attractive to men than a 20 year old.

Doesn't it?

When confronted with theoretical disputes like this, my own approach is to seek out evidence. In the case of the Wall, this is not too difficult. The Adultwork prostitution site - the UK's most popular - lists the profiles of 20 000 British escorts and these can be easily searched in terms of age, location and so forth. The results were extremely interesting.

My Adultwork search showed 500 women over 55 successfully selling sex to men in the UK. A further search showed 42 profiles of women over 65 successfully selling sex. By contrast, the few males 'selling' sex at that (or any) age were clearly catering to sexual deviants or simply paying for the services of female escorts (obviously major Sexual False Consciousness at play here). By contrast, almost all the post-55 female escorts were successfully selling sex to a wide range of male 'punters', with feedback to prove it.

Naughty Cougar was still notching up reviews at 70, although she also combined chat and webcamming with her escorting service. Scottish Kat was doing even better. She had 870 reviews (many very recent) and only offered sex to her clients. She is 55, an age with almost zero SMV according to exponents of 'Wall Theory'. At 60, Monica had 181 reviews, all recent sexual encounters. Her profile makes a point of saying she sees no one under 25, although all males over that age are welcome. All these 'ladies' were charging 200 USD (or more) for half an hours' 'work'. So much for The Wall...

Scottish Kat: 870 reviews at the ripe old age of 55 

At 60, Monica does not see males under 25; is the demand too great?


At 70, Naughty Cougar has no problem selling sex to thirsty males.

With all this remunerative exploitation of male sexuality by elderly women, how can MGTOWs and PUAs seriously maintain that women hit some 'Wall' at age 35?  Yes, online sex workers are not representative of all women but these ageing British escorts still make a laughing stock of the whole MGTOW/PUA agenda. There is clearly no Wall when women over 55 can make a full time living selling sex to men, many far younger than themselves, for a handsome profit

Although I must apologise for the sordid nature of this post, even I was staggered at these results. Is the Anglosphere's problem of sexual repression far, far worse than even I envisaged? I am starting to wonder if a large majority of young Anglo-American males get any free sex at all. But if not, why are so many young men buying sex from women old enough to be their grandmothers? If elderly British women have a higher SMV than men in their prime, how much greater is the SMV of females in their teens and twenties? To quote my Millennial friends: Like, what the fuck....

In reality, the 'Rational Male's' SMV chart should look like the one below:




Clearly, discrete male SMV never surpasses female SMV in the UK. Even when female SMV begins to decline at 23, it remains infinitely more powerful than its male counterpart. Indeed, it remains at least twice as high when women reach old age. What conclusions can we draw from this?

First, it is obvious that the distinctive sexual repression of Anglo-American culture artificially raises female SMV to abnormal levels; which is why Anglo-American feminists remain such vociferous opponents of prostitution and all other manifestations of heterosexual freedom. In addition, the Anglosphere's distinctive hyper-hypergamy and institutionalised misandry mean men have almost no sexual value at all in the UK (and by extension, the Anglosphere). In the light of the foregoing discussion, it seems obvious that the best option for Anglo-American men is simply to depart the Anglosphere and seek relationships abroad

Because distant shores are always waiting...

Is this movement completely deluded?

16 comments:

  1. In Anglo countries, women's sexual market value will always be higher than a man's sexual market value (even middle aged women will score higher on the SMV then men will).

    The best option for men in Anglo countries is to move abroad and avoid Anglo women like the plague!

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    1. How are your own expatriation plans developing, James?

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  2. The Wall has always had a strong sour grapes component to it as in "I desire this woman I can't have but that's ok because she won't be hot or desirable for long".

    All in all, it makes me wonder if the term SMV is not a misnomer, especially when applied to men, because male SMV comes more from power, wealth, status & dependability (ie. the Beta Bucks model) than it comes from physical desirability or hotness.

    Of course, this was once true for female SMV, too, before hotness became the sole criteria for female SMV, back when most women were still expected to exhibit qualities like gratitude, loyalty, prudence & marriageability.

    To say that the typical western woman is now 'entitled' is a gross understatement:

    They are ungrateful sexual purveyors who lack the finer graces & they are perishably bad investments.

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  3. 'All in all, it makes me wonder if the term SMV is not a misnomer, especially when applied to men, because male SMV comes more from power, wealth, status & dependability (ie. the Beta Bucks model) than it comes from physical desirability or hotness.'

    Agreed. I don't think the term that applies to men should contain the word 'sexual' at all, since women's 'sexual' attraction to men is typically so negligible. Especially in the Anglosphere.

    'Of course, this was once true for female SMV, too, before hotness became the sole criteria for female SMV, back when most women were still expected to exhibit qualities like gratitude, loyalty, prudence & marriageability.'

    Now, they reap the benefits of both eras: they enjoy the sexual celebrity status the modern era bestows on them while being protected by the cuckold chivalry of tradition. For them, the best of all possible worlds.

    Meanwhile, men have neither sexual status or social respect.

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  4. While I agree to most of what is presented, about male prostitution, Joe Conforte of Mustang Ranch tried it in the 70s. It proved to not be feasible. The recovery time for the men was too long.

    Another thought. Your SMV comparison chart is closer to the truth, but exposes a very sick market. A demand imbalance this bad cannot be maintained. However, as someone once observed about stocks, markets can stay irrational longer than you have time or money. When it does revert to mean, it is going to be spectacular.

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    1. *While I agree to most of what is presented, about male prostitution, Joe Conforte of Mustang Ranch tried it in the 70s. It proved to not be feasible. The recovery time for the men was too long.*

      The sheer lack of female interest can't have helped. AW male 'escorts' seem to pay for sex with female prostitutes or webcam for gay men. I could not find a single one who had been paid for sex by a woman.

      *Another thought. Your SMV comparison chart is closer to the truth, but exposes a very sick market. A demand imbalance this bad cannot be maintained. However, as someone once observed about stocks, markets can stay irrational longer than you have time or money. When it does revert to mean, it is going to be spectacular.*

      I think the rise of pan-Anglosphere political instability relates to this crazy sex-market, albeit indirectly. Also, mass shootings.

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  5. Feminists continually cockblock men by raising the age of consent, then creating rape hysteria laws on college campuses, and then shaming men for dating women a few years younger than them...This is what I've observed in Canada. Ever since feminists raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 back in 2008, gender relations started to turn for the worse. Young men from 18 to 21 are even accused of horrible names for dating 16 and 17 year olds these days!

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    1. Ultimately, Anglo feminists want to live in a world where sexual intercourse never takes place and people are bred in test tubes. Such a world would maximise female SMV to supernatural levels, which is of course their ultimate motivation.

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    2. Empowered thots in Toronto would cover their cleavage, or cover their ass using their shirt or cardigan when around a grown man, but at their daycare centre, park, teacher job, they dress in revealing shorts, short skirts that you can see their g-string and bare white asses at the right setting, and also allow daycare-age children to touch them in places which would be considered sexual assault if a male had done this.

      Feminism creates pedophiles and dog fuckers!

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  6. The MGTOW crowd are right about The Wall because they measure women from the beauty reproductive side of things. Once women hit their 30s and 40s, their chances of successfully carrying and giving birth to a healthy baby decreases (hence the decrease in the SMV of young women.

    After reading the article, the reason why these older women are getting even more sex is because there's a massive number of thirsty, blue-pilled beta males in the UK and the rest of the Anglosphere who are chasing sexual relations with older women because the vast majority of the younger, more attractive women have shunned the 80-95% of the heterosexual male population in favour of riding the Chad and Tyrone Cock Carousel.

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    1. The thing is, the beauty-reproductive side of things has a lot less significance in an era wherein so many women have deliberately opted out of reproducing. With that reproductive factor ever less relevant, sex is now a purely recreational activity in which simple vagina ownership automatically bestows massive SMV on all women, however past-prime.

      *After reading the article, the reason why these older women are getting even more sex*

      There is a bit more to it than that. They are actually getting PAID for this sex, not handing it out for free. I agree about younger women having struck off 80% of the male population as potential partners, though I think this relates as much to lesbianism, the Dog Pill and just plain frigidity as much as it does to a fixation with Chad/Tyrone.

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    2. 60, 70 and even 80yo Angloskank females here in Toronto watch me, and other Indo-caribbean men (such as Guyanese, Surinamese, Barbadians, even a few Jamaicans) as if they would sexually harass them...They also have bitch shields and honestly they are trying real hard to create a scene to express their hubris of their SMV. I blame feminism for this as feminism cockblocks men from meeting younger women, while older women are being approached by cougar lovers.

      I can't stand the fuckery of these women, both old and young in Toronto. I can't even spend a morning in transit to work without the drama from these Angloskanks, that I have to wear large sunglasses and wear headphones to block off the feminist suspicion of men.

      I could care less if these cougarskanks die from cancer!

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  7. The biggest error in the wall meme is it pretends 30 year old women have as much sexual attraction as a 15 year old girl, and that women reach their peak in their early twenties.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that in any other period of history than our own, men preferred 21 year olds to adolescent teens (and remember that girls start puberty earlier these days).

    As for 70 year old women having sexual power because some can make a living from prostitution, I guess it has a lot to do with the fact there will always be a niche demand from a subset of men for anything female and sexual. I'm sure there are BBW escorts too.

    Also keep in mind that a punter can get years in prison if the prostitute turns out to have been under 18. Brothels will get raided and scrutinized if they keep even girls 18 - 25, whilst independent 'cougars' are no doubt left entirely alone by the authorities.

    I also suspect a lot of the young men into older women would prefer to be an older man having sex with a young girl, but this kind of 'role reversal' is the next best thing. Hence why most 'cougar' porn involves teenage boys and often the 'stepmom' fantasy.

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  8. *The biggest error in the wall meme is it pretends 30 year old women have as much sexual attraction as a 15 year old girl, and that women reach their peak in their early twenties.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that in any other period of history than our own, men preferred 21 year olds to adolescent teens (and remember that girls start puberty earlier these days).*

    Perhaps it is testament to the power of sex-negative Anglo-modern feminism that even sexual dissidents such as MGTOWs have bought into the feminist myth that post-pubertal teens are asexual 'children'. In reality, a lot of these 'angels' have already clocked up dozens of cocks by the age of 18, if our Gen Y and Z friends are to be believed.

    *As for 70 year old women having sexual power because some can make a living from prostitution, I guess it has a lot to do with the fact there will always be a niche demand from a subset of men for anything female and sexual. I'm sure there are BBW escorts too.*

    There are female escorts for every male taste because male tastes are much broader. Tinder experiments show women dismiss 80% of male suitors, while males dismiss 20% of females. Whatever, the fact that there are thousands of women successfully selling sex over 40 completely confounds MGTOW 'Wall' narratives that such women are sexual untouchables. Such women have 10 times the sexual power of any MGTOW male, at least in the repressive Anglosphere.

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  9. I came from a "developing" country where sex is obtainable with reasonable effort and investment. But there was a BIG difference in the anglosphere.
    You said it yourself. "Repressive" women in the anglosphere are taught by their k-selected parents and peers to sell everything from their skills and qualifications to their sex,love, care and time. Women are given the freedom and power to capitalize every single aspect of their existence they have become unattainable without some grand effort or price or "game" whatever.
    In a society as repressed as that, some men incel or not will get desperate and see 50 year old pussy as still pussy in make-up.
    This is just a reflection of how bad the control over the sexuality of society has been given to the women. They will not be satisfied and men will have to fuck 90 year old pussy and then eventually goats and heffers

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  10. Beat a dog with a stick long enough and it will fall in line. A disgusting way to train but it is unfortunately effective.

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