Renegade #1: Was there a better way? |
Western society promotes myths of personal transformation to keep itself ticking over, while peddling goods and services that the broad masses mistakenly believe will improve their lot. The sole benefit of this rigorous programme is false optimism. Thus the short, puny man with a hooked acromion daydreams of someday becoming Mr Universe; the low IQ dope thinks he can become a surgeon with a ‘little more revision’; the one-eyed Indian janitor thinks he will bed models if he gets himself a new haircut; and so on. While none of this will ever happen, it inoculates the low-value male (as society and women reckon him) from absolute despair.
It ain't happening, dude... |
The Black Pill – uncompromising realism and unflinching acceptance of genetic and cultural determinism – offers no such comfort blanket. Even my own Crimson Pill rejects simplistic, adaptive solutions to most dilemmas. According to our critics, this uncompromising approach renders the Black or Crimson-Pilled male far more susceptible to depression and suicide. Far better to live in daydreams, they say, than drink the hemlock of truth.
Superficially, there seems to be much evidence to support this view. Black Pilled male suicide frequently conforms to the conceptual frameworks designed to study such behaviour. Emile Durkheim, the father of sociology, claimed there were four types of suicide:
- Altruistic – self-sacrifice for the greater good
- Anomic – reaction to sudden failure and ostracism
- Egoistic – escape from oppression, tyranny and bondage
- Fatalistic – escape from an intolerable life of pain and exclusion
Black Pilled male suicide seems to be mostly of the egoistic variety. Renegade #1, one of the most famous Black Pilled suicides, was certainly of this type. Suicidal incel mass killers such as Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian seem to be Altruistic as well as Egoistic, in that they believed their ‘sacrifice’ would somehow improve the world for other men like themselves.
The true cause of male suicide |
Surely, then, the Black or Crimson Pills are inherently dangerous for 'low-value' men? On closer inspection, this compelling interpretation misses the truth by a wide margin. For it is not the Black Pill that leads sexually-disenfranchised men to suicide, but Anglo-American culture itself. Accepting the Black or Crimson pills is a neutral decision, completely unrelated to depression or suicide. Living in a misandrist society inhabited by racist, entitled female vermin is the true cause of male suicide and depression; the Black Pill is merely a response to that unlivable situation, not its cause.
So what is to be done? More important, how is one to live?
The obvious solution to misandry is male self-reliance and independence – in general terms, studied detachment from the Anglosphere and its reflexive misandry, racism and repression. This approach negates the threat of suicide through focused empowerment and more importantly, active resistance.
Why is living in the teeth of gynocratic hostility a heroic act of resistance? Moreover, how does choosing to live represent a dynamic revolt against the misandrist social order?
This system wants us dead, dudes... |
The answer is simple: Anglo-American women, simps and society in general actively want ‘low value’ men to kill themselves. In fact, that outcome is right at the top of their twisted agenda. This life-changing realisation confounds the whole notion that suicide is a rebellious or ‘romantic’ act: in the Anglosphere, a suicidal male is actually conforming to society's dominant values!
In conclusion, do not give way to the siren song of suicide. It is not Black or Crimson Pilled, not 'romantic' or cool and certainly not bold or manly. In truth, male suicide is the act of a Blue Pilled muppet conforming to Anglobitch whims and societal misandry, both of which want you dead. Conversely, choosing life represents authentic revolt, vigorous resistance and focused autonomy.
For Awakened Men in physical health and of sound mind, suicide should not even be an option.
The Crimson Pill: Wholesome After All |
I wish that I could offer something in hope of a better outcome. I just keep remembering someone else who traded comments with and he said that it was a great relief to live somewhere where men are not hated. For him, that was western China.
ReplyDeleteStaying alive and going your own way in life (MGTOW) is the ultimate middle finger to the Anglosphere women, simps, and society. By taking control of your live and not killing yourself sends a message to all that you are not going anywhere and you are going to live your life on your own terms.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely. While MGTOW is not always a choice, becoming an immobile stone of resistance (or indifference) in the Anglosphere is definitely the way to go for Awakened men.
DeleteRookh,
DeleteThe following video best sums up what MGTOW and going your own way in life to escape Anglosphere women, simps and society that want you to kill yourself.
"HEY YOU BASTARDS! I'M STILL HERE!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMSCuQlpgk
Great scene, indeed. I hope no one is that desperate, though...!
DeleteThe elite living in Manhattan and Bridle Path Toronto want sub-8 men to die en masse.
ReplyDeleteThat is exactly correct. Given such a reality, how can suicide be heroic or rebellious? Sub-8 Toronto men killing themselves is like eating at McDonald's, in cultural terms: an act of hyper-conformity.
DeleteLiving on in a spirit of resistance is true rebellion for sub-8 Canadian men.
The elite in the First World can rely on mass immigration to get more consumers, while the old stock men die silently, that is, until the migrant men become incels and they too end up radicalised or dying from fentanyl overdoses.
DeleteLiving in Toronto and attending a downtown feminist campus from 2012-15 was hell. Leave the feminist and consumerist culture.
ReplyDeleteModern women:
ReplyDeletehttps://incels.wiki/images/3/34/Redpillcomics37.jpg
I know so many doctors like that.
DeleteJD Unwin was right. I can see that now. I just can't fully grok the why of it.
DeleteAs for male suicide, You would think that would be seen as a warning signal like the sirens on the roof of the fire station.
Rather than rope, just become a burden to society by going on welfare and NEETmaxxing. The rates are low, but a job under the table will help with middle class living costs. Forget living in feminist strongholds where the cost of living is feminist & hyper-capitalist.
ReplyDeleteBased advice but not all that easy in every country.
Delete99% of womyn on Tinder message the top 1-5% of men.
ReplyDeleteCaptain Capitalism is a trained economist and looks at the sexual marketplace that way. He doesn't write post like this often. This one went out of the park.
ReplyDeletehttp://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2021/10/what-if-women-just-dont-like-men.html
There is something very wrong and trying to fix men is not going to help. Men aren't the ones who are broken.
aaron clarey is a weird mstow larper who is out of touch with reality. hes partnered up with a giant amazon woman for the last 15+ years so he has no clue about the dating market of today. Weird little midget. not recommended.
DeleteBrootal, as LMS would say.
DeleteI think CC has been somewhat influenced by my own writings, since I said similar things years ago:
https://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-year-game-special-ii-does-rape.html
That is, historical intra-male competition for women has blunted female sexual evolution. With women coerced into harems by elite men, they never really 'evolved' any strong desire for men (or sex with them): it was not necessary for them to do so. While intra-male competition ensured strong, universal male desires for slim, young, symmetrical women with big tits, women never had to evolve similar desires for men: patriarchal coercion simply took care of that, with or without female consent. This is why 6% of the world's male population is descended from Genghis Khan.
This female 'non-evolution' process amply explains the uneven sex drives of men and women, why women view sex in reproductive rather than ludic terms, why most women are bisexual, like to fuck dogs, and so on. The overall point being that letting women make their own reproductive choices results in hyper-hypergamy, dog-fucking, mass male inceldom, mass lesbianism and sliding birth rates (exactly what the modern Anglosphere is seeing).
All this being said, the situation is still far worse in the Anglosphere (especially North America) for cultural reasons. I really liked this comment on Cappy's post:
My experience is a bit different, but I do agree that American women don’t seem to like men very much. I dated women in Malaysia, Russia, Ukraine, Mexico, and Spain and generally got much more respect than I ever got from American women. It was hard for me to even get a date in the US, but these overseas women invited me to stay with them in some cases, and/or expressed the desire to marry me. I would agree that many women don’t really seem to enjoy sex, they just have sex in order to manipulate men better. One American woman I dated changed to a complete bitch after she had sex with me, I could see the gears turning in her head.
Many American women seem to see intelligence in a man as a negative thing, although that doesn’t seem to be the case with Jewish women, in my experience. At various times I dated Christians, Jewish women, Hindu, a Muslim, etc.
Some of these negative character traits seem to be somewhat unique to American women, some would apply to women in general. In the US men are constantly demonized and degraded, especially white heterosexual men, American women are taught to hate men. You could debate the reason for this, but it’s a constant barrage of negativity.
Marriage may still be a goal for some men, but it seems to offer less and less all the time. The state owns your children and will teach them to hate you. The media and corporate America will train your wife to hate you. Most men seem still seem to be operating on old information, like they are still living in the 1980s.
*Most men seem still seem to be operating on old information, like they are still living in the 1980s.*
DeleteI especially like this comment and would welcome some speculation on why it is so. The 'mainstream' media aimed at men such as GQ magazine are still living in the late 1960s, not the 1980s. It is like they have no grasp of contemporary reality at all.
I was a teenager in the late sixties. It was a more elegant and honest time.
DeleteBetter Bachelor has done response video to Cappy's post. I haven't seen it yet, it runs over an hour, but it is likely brilliant in its perception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uouxqs8I6Os
I saw it and it was a good watch. I think what we are dealing with is that men are responding for the sexual marketplace and they are withdrawing. We're not designed to fight women directly.
DeleteThe BB guy seems to be saying that women no longer need men in the present economic situation, where they have their own jobs and money. Sub-5 Anglo-American men are not 'withdrawing' from the dating market, they were never part of it in the first place.
DeleteOne thing BB misses is that the post-WW2 era (1950s - 1990s) created a lot of our basic expectations, but that era was a historical anomaly. High social mobility, monogamy, youth culture, jobs for all and other 'norms' did not characterise western society prior to that era, yet we assume these things were immutable and eternal.
The modern womyn will get the police involved when a sub-8 man approaches her in a Toronto or London club, but she will be quiet when a CEO or politician rapes her.
Deleteaaron clarey is just an outdated boomer, regurgitating content of others to continue his personal grift, getting likes, pageviews and money. Vasectomy midget clarey was giving ludicrous advice and shitting on men for years and even his "asshole consulting" grift wouldn't answer the female question. For years he dismissed the situation and denied there was any real problem until he got correspondence from successful high-income men who had the same problem.
ReplyDeleteSure, I guess his writing is alright but it's taken him all this time to simply acknowledge the problem, while not suffering from it, thanks to the 6 foot tall mommy-dommy giantess who doms him for the last decade and a half or more. There are better manosphere figures out there who are quicker on the uptake. I'd say the only worse ones compared to clarey is cryptkeeper tommassi or various mstows. They're all just a bunch of out of touch old geezer boomers, continuing their old grift. you can't teach an old dog new tricks, so I think it's time for them to be euthanized.
It's funny too how clarey constantly accuses other men of being weak and unattractive, but I guarantee most guys would probably step on him like a bug. He's like 5'4".
He cited my article on American men becoming mercenaries, so I know he is familiar with my ideas (http://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2012/01/anglo-american-men-new-mercenaries.html). He is not utterly Blue Pilled but seems to occupy Jordan Peterson territory, telling men to 'man up' and adopt traditional responsibilities while women fuck dogs, experiment with lesbianism, hate men and generally scorn the traditional female role. As you say, Cappy has begun to change his tune for the better over the past few years (probably because the Black/Crimson pills have risen to dominate the manosphere and can no longer be ignored). For all that, he still seems hooked on lame Boomer platitudes, like:
Delete'Get a Harley-Davidson to get wahmen, bro!'
As if such outmoded advice would work for a one-eyed Indian janitor, an ethnic manlet or a Toronto immigrant living in a shack...
Above all, Cappy's 'man up' trope does not not wash with me at all. Manning up and maintaining a misandrist society that hates men is utter folly; far better to withdraw one's consent or simply depart such a society for pastures new (or just different).
Boomers are wealthy to fuck the same 18-21 year old campus feminist's who allege to h8 men.
DeleteWhat you attribute to Cappy is standard Red Pill trope. That men can advance themselves to the minority that women like. Women presume to have status above the men they reject, so they reject all but a handful, believing their status is enhanced. I think the numbers from Tinder are just too depressing to ignore and changed his outlook.
DeleteThis Millenial white dude didn't have hunter eyes. Therefore, he allegedly "coverted to Islam" and murdered 4 women and 1 man:
Deletehttps://news.sky.com/story/espen-andersen-braathen-what-we-know-so-far-about-suspected-norway-bow-and-arrow-killer-12433780
In all the MSM ramblings about the archer I never once noticed any mention of his (obviously) single status or the fact that four of his five victims were women.
DeleteMy immediate thought was: this guy is an incel who converted to Islam because he can't get any sex in the West's competitive sexual marketplace (and thought he might if he adopted a monogamous belief system).
When that failed to work out and he glimpsed his lifecel future, he started killing people (mainly women). Why does Blue pilled society need 'a team of psychiatrists' to work out something so obvious to Awakened men like ourselves?
Their agenda is to blame religion, and the tradcucks will fight wars in the Middle East while Chanty Binxes sleep with Chads in the sheets.
DeleteThe problem with being awakened is that what is easy for you to see won't be by someone who wants to support the MSM narrative.Even if you confronted him with Tinder's own numbers, he would be saying "but, but, but,... " as he backed out the door. The truth of the mater is too terrible for them to consider. This is why argument in the face of irrationality is of little purpose.
Deleteclarey is hastily attempting to evolve his redpill grift to fit the new paradigm of blackpill, but the blackpill is not supposed to sell anything. I wouldn't be surprised if he has bitten off multiple content creators and repackaged their ideas in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.
DeleteThe Black Pill sells plenty of rope, if nothing else.
DeleteAll womyn are like that {AWALT}
ReplyDeleteI work in the office of a local branch of a mid-sized supermarket chain. Along with basic accounting and book keeping we also have western union. For two years, some guy was strung along by a Filippina...and sent in that period of time, I do not know how much money!! What she saw was a cash cow to support herself and her family...and naturally!! nothing ever came of it.
The middle class is dying, while Chanty Binx encourage women to become cum buckets for the top 10% of men. Islam was right. There will be a time when 50 women will be provided by one rich man.
ReplyDeleteI think there will be men but men 49 men won't be marrying any women due to lack of resources and lack of women willing to marry men with fewer resources. Like now more women have colleges degrees and there are lesser and lesser men that are eligible to marry them. Because women are increasingly out earning them. This will increase further. And reach the point till there is only 1 men eligible to marry or take care of those 40 women.
DeleteIt's official, the vast majority of heterosexual women in the Anglosphere (99.99%) have priced themselves out of the dating market. They see the top 5%-20% of heterosexual men as attractive and see the remaining 80%-95% as "unattractive losers" - regardless of the man's race, ethnicity, religion, socio-economic background, political beliefs, and looks and appearance. If any man from the 80%-95% bracket shows interest in the opposite sex in the current year, he faces the high risk of having his life, livelihood, reputation and freedoms being destroyed by women for next to no reason. They won't hesitate to have the police, the law and courts do their dirty work.
DeleteIf you want proof of this, look to the surveys by Tinder. The picture isn't pretty.
The son of Ted Rogers was removed as Chair from his father's billionaire company, Rogers Communications. The mangina Toronto mayor John Tory had something to do with that.
DeleteThe female family members of Rogers want to retain Italian Chad Joe Natale as CEO:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/qd26kn/john_tory_should_not_be_intervening_in_the_messy/
Chanty Binx caused this:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2021/06/14/why-do-colleges-dislike-men-the-disappearing-collegiate-male/?sh=104ecb597850
Western women need sub 8 men to provide the tax revenue that pays for their make jobs and welfare. So despite wanting them dead on an instinctual level the pragmatic solution is to keep them alive but manipulate them into self censorship and shut down any website that promotes non blue pill philosophy.
ReplyDeleteMoney printer go brrrr, feminists became rich on OnlyFanz.
DeleteKind of like those parasitic wasps that put cockroaches into a trance by rewiring their brains with venom; so that the wasp's larvae can feed off the immobilised victim.
DeleteMake jobs, welfare and Only Fans all work on exactly the same principle. I would suggest the Sexual False Consciousness is a very good analogy for the venom, too; it certainly leads Blue Knights, White Knights and other roaches into self-censorship.
https://youtu.be/-ySwuQhruBo
DeleteAll this said, the instant that low-value males threaten revolt or show signs of self-awareness, women (and dope society in general) want them immediately eradicated.
DeleteFeminism worsened income inequality for the middle and poor.
DeleteDid you know that there are thousands of school-aged teenage girls who stalk celebrities living in Bridle Path? When those girls become Chanty BinX Big Red feminists, they subjugate the sub-8 men while following those celebrities on Instagram.
ReplyDeleteI did not know but it is no surprise.
DeleteAnglo feminism is a toxic blend of hypergamy, racism and empowerment.
Didn't Drake get roasted the other day for sexting a 14-year-old girl? Wait...why are feminists not smearing his name online? Why are preteen girls packing his concerts?
Deletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvicecanada/comments/qgsqj4/divorce_advice_needed_division_of_asset_child/
ReplyDeleteDivorce Advice Needed (division of asset, child & spouse support)
DeleteBritish Columbia
Hi,
My wife and I have been married for 4.5 years and have a 4 year old son together. Before we were married, she was in Canada with a working visa. Now, she has a PR status. We have a house in my name. The house was purchased with the help from her parents abroad.
About a month ago, she told me she wanted to move to a different location. She persuaded me to sell our house. We will officially be moving out of the house in only a couple of days. After the move out date have been set with the buyer, she told me she wanted a divorce.
I'm certain that she have been planning this well in advance.
*I'm certain that she have been planning this well in advance.*
DeleteNo shit.
Doubtless Jordan Cuckerson would be telling him to 'man up' and 'be responsible'.
Jordan Peterson is not a friend of young men.
DeleteBrad, Chad:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvicecanada/comments/qgjjpp/i_f16_think_a_man_i_was_talking_to_online_brad/
All power to him.
DeleteHe sure wasn't a one-eyed Indian janitor, we can be sure of that.
All Evull Canuck cunts shud be kikked in the face!!!!!
DeleteWhy did she give away her nude photos to him when she is a feminist?
DeleteWomen do some really stupid things and it is always some man's fault.
DeleteWanna bet that this "girl" covers her ass cheeks when wearing butt shorts during the humid Canadian summers, while openly spreading her ass cheeks for Chad online? Modern womyn are the Meme gender.
DeleteIn a few years once she graduates from teacher's college or Med school, she will be FREELY spreading open her ass cheeks for minors while baiting a simp to marry her.
Even worse, she will get away with it.
DeleteTeenage sluts who share nudes to Chads and Tyrones deserve NO sympathy these days.
DeleteCanadian men, British men and Australian men cannot avoid the hyergamous nature of their womyn. If those men can't afford those real estate prices backed by money laundering billionaires.
ReplyDeleteUndead Chronic attacking the so-called "FemCel" crisis head on...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBpUFgFOFT8
I "chase the bag" and have a high paying job and independent and don't need a man, but I also need a man that makes more money than me, but also he shouldn't be making more money than me because that's part of the glass ceiling structure.Also he must pay for everything on the first date and fill the traditional role of the "provider", however men who insist on paying the bill are sexist because they are stuck in the 1950's.Also,I don't have to take care of my body and should be accepted for being a bit "bigger", however the male should have a six pack abs and be 6ft, but judging a female's looks is objectifying them, unless a women herself is doing it,then it is empowering,but if that attractive woman is featured on advertising, then it's objectifying them again.
DeleteI have several degrees and want a man that I can intellectually stimulate me, however if he talks about nerdy things like science,math, or philosophy, that is a turn off because that is boring and he doesn't understand how to hold a conversation like basketball player that I had a short fling with a month ago.
UC is fantastic.
DeleteI knew he would pick up on that article.
Every human eats, sleeps, poops, and eventually die. What matters is how you spend your life. Why live a life of being treated as a criminal by the Chanty Binx, working a dead-end job, or worse forced by a #metoo from the naked Chanty Binx?
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ReplyDeleteI know this is completely unrelated but...What's your estimation for a normalized inceldom, Rookh?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking about 7-10 years from now on, mass media will stop promoting average-looking men in relationships entirely, gay and asexual men will increase their representation in media (it's currently happen in kids shows)
This'll also cause attractive men dating down considerably. As an hypothetical example: That 6ft tall blue eyed athlete who would've dated that blonde hot girl back in the 90s will currently have to settle with a 3/10 chubby plane Jane
Male inceldom will be the rule for 90% of men while hyper-hypergamy will be considered as "healthy" female sexuality.
I think there is a massive issue right now, especially with Anglo-American men of the lower socio-economic groups. A lot of these issues are masked by an elite Boomer-dominated media persisting in promoting the delusion that everyone gets married at 22 and has kids by 25, even though that has not been the case for decades. Even lower class American women have already adopted hyper-hypergamous feminist standards, leading a large minority of them to exclude men from their lives:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/17/economists-men-now-need-more-than-just-money-to-be-marriageable.html
In the UK, 20% of women remain childless due to 'not finding the right partner' (i.e. an 8-foot tall Chad earning £200k a year). The searing figures for the resultant male childlessness and singleness you can look up for yourself.
In London, I see pretty high value men (gym-maxxed, solvent, tall, hirsute, handsome) with short, overweight and plain women all the time. It is as though men bear the brunt of all reproductive pressure in Anglo culture while women bear virtually none (but still seem to come out ahead). In short, I see a lot of the things you describe as being in place already. Again, the Boomer-dominated MSM serves to mask these issues, while Boomer social 'science' academia refuses to research them. The fixation on promoting M2F transsexualism while advocating for 'better mental health services' is an deranged attempt to 'manage' the crisis that is doomed to failure before it starts.
So my guess is 5-7 years for mass male inceldom to become a thing, because the problem is already far more developed than the mainstream either knows or is prepared to admit. Perhaps their ability to deny there is a problem will start to erode in your 7-10 year timescale, though.
The days of a man owning a home and having a wife and two kids are OVER in the First world.
DeleteI don't see this ending well. While disincentivizing men is easy to see ending badly, we don't know what this is doing to women. They are following a herd mentality that feminism brought back and it is going to take them to a place they don't want to go, involuntary celibacy. At present, women are deluding themselves into thinking that they are better off without men. What are they going to do when they can't get the pickle jar open and it dawns on them that feminists led them down the wrong path? We are headed for interesting times.
DeleteAt present, I think that men are walking away from the sexual marketplace and women have yet to realize that men make lifetime choices.
Female incels? Impossible! You mean alpha widows and spinsters who are former Chad and Tyrone cock suckers.
DeleteCan't get laid is can't get laid. I am sure women are dreaming up plenty of excuses. The fact remains is that they have made themselves sexual failures.
DeleteI wanna cutta fake femcel bitches face off with a power-saw
DeleteOne less boomer feminazi. What was her 43-year-old Chad or Tyrone doing at her home that she may have inherited or gotten from the corrupt Family Court?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/woman-dead-assault-north-york-home-1.6231996
The suspect is definitely not Steve Urkel..
No great loss.
DeleteModern feminist women fart stink, they have stds and their holes are looser than the anti-money laundering laws in Canada.
ReplyDeleteYou got me to laughing. Of course their farts stink. The problem is that they are not complaining of their farts stinking, only other people's farts.
DeleteModern womyn consume alcohol, opiates and a diet which contributes to the smelliest farts in the world. The average human fart is not odorous.
DeleteCanadian women and Chanty Binx tried to get me expelled from campus. They want rich men.
ReplyDeleteInteresting story and doubtless true.
DeleteWould you care to elaborate?
Chanty Binx should be shot with a ball of her own shit!!
DeleteThat would be messy and stinky.
DeleteThe Big Red videos are falling away due to age. It was a while ago that Chanty Binx made her debut and was given the name Big Red. The music in tha background is the Benny Hill theme, or Yakety Sax, originally.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH_ZryBfCtU
I was a young 18-year-old man who attended UofT from 2013 to 2015. Chanty Binx, Big Red as she is known in Canada, falsely accused me of misogyny and making her feel unsafe on campus.
DeleteWhite feminist professor uses the n-word to Black students on Canadian campus:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-professor-derogatory-word-freedom-of-academic-1.6237256
I found this post from Quora, what do you think of it?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.quora.com/What-are-incels-doing-wrong/answer/Michelle-Steele-MAD-PIRATE-QUEEN?ch=10&oid=316014728&share=efffad15&srid=uWfC3Z&target_type=answer
Part 1.
"What are Incels doing Wrong?
They aren’t acting logically.
Let’s treat inceldom as if it were a business problem and look at it objectively. **All figures based on the US.
The Issue.
Incels (usual males aged 18 - 29) who have never had a partner or sex, desire a particular type of partner (and sex). Looking specifically at men, 31% are single at any given time (it’s the same for women) but the number is disproportionate when looking at the 18 - 29 age bracket for men. [1][2]
The desired end goal.
A relationship (and sex) with a young beautiful woman who doesn’t wear makeup, who dresses modestly, is not a feminist, who is a virgin and is submissive in nature or will act subordinate to the male in a relationship.[3]
Barriers to achievement: (a very basic summary)
The end goal is pre-qualified nearly out of existence. Nearly no one meets their criteria. Incels hate women who don’t meet their criteria for desirable. The list is unrealistic but incels refuse to compromise making the list ‘hardline’ or non-negotiable.
There’s a deficit in available women versus available men in the desired age brackets.
The basic nature of incels.
Solutions.
The end goal is pre-qualified nearly out of existence. Nearly no one meets their criteria.
Ack. There’s a 19% disparity in the US between single men and women (as per graphic above[4]). If this was out of 100 people, there’d be 51 single men compared to 32 single women in the incel age bracket (because women date older men). The average age in the USA to lose virginity is 17.1 years of age with 12.3%[5] of women remaining virgins by age 24 (versus 14.3% of males) indicating that of the 32 single women, only around 3.2% might meet the virginity demand. Once you start adding in the other hurdles, the number pre-qualifies down to basically zero available candidates. All other women are excluded as being undesirable (in the eyes of incels). Incels have created a lose/lose scenario for themselves since their demands cannot physically be met.
It should be noted that the ‘51 single men compared to 32 single women’ number is not static. Most single men and women go through cycles of forming relationships and breaking up, moving in and out of the available single numbers. Incels are a portion of the men who have never had a relationship or sex.
69% of all 18+ people in the US are in a relationship - (men and women) but singleness is disproportionate in younger men and older women. If we took 100 men, 69 of them (heh) would be in relationships leaving 31. A number of those move in and out of relationships (only 3.3% of men are still virgins by 30). Of the virgins, 27% remain virgins by choice (voluntary virginity is on the rise) and only a number of what’s leftover would actually even identify themselves as incel or uphold the incel narrative.
The number of incels is actually a tiny fraction and they have little to no influence to change cultures or societies. As a tiny minority, the conclusion would be that incel demands are unreasonable and cannot be fulfilled therefore their demands must be adjusted in order to fit with their reality.
**SIDENOTE: If this was a business, It would have already failed a feasibility study but I’ll continue.
There’s a deficit in available women versus available men in the desired age brackets.
Even if incels did adjust their list of demands (and people were willing to meet them) there would still be a shortfall in prospective partners. This issue partially drills back to incel criteria. Having unrealistic requirements of young highly attractive partners pre-qualifies them out of any contention. Some basic examples that are not currently acceptable to incels:
Part 2
ReplyDelete"Sex workers (despised by incels) could help bridge the gap.
Women, the same age (or older), or solo mothers, could also help bridge the gap.
Voluntary practises such as polyamory might assist as well.
Conclusion: Reducing qualification processes would increase their potential options for partners
The basic nature of incels.
Incels are outspoken in their hatred of most women which discourages women from considering them as sexual partners (even if the women weren’t deemed to be acceptable by incels) and the women who have at least several of the attributes desired by incels are not interested in incels and have better options available to them leading them to select others they consider more desirable as partners.
Speaking hatefully about all women discourages women.
Attacking women for physical attributes and age discourages women.
Reducing women to insulting stereotypes discourages women.
Considering women to be less and unequal, discourages women.
Believing oneself to be hideous, ugly, stupid or worthless, discourages people.
Believing and stating that women only want men for money is insulting and discourages women.
Buying in to objectively incorrect beliefs (such as harem theory[6] and ‘alpha’ men[7] ) means that any tactics taken are doomed to fail because the premise is false.
Incels are their own worst enemies. Their beliefs are repugnant to the very women that they seek. Their actions and statements simply reinforce negative stereotypes driving away those they think would solve their issues (the specific subset of women).
Conclusion: Incels need to adjust what they do, what they say, who they say it to and how they present themselves. They also need to seek assistance for body dysmorphia and self-hate since many are ordinary but retain a level of unhealthy self-disgust.
This is a very basic breakdown but some of the issues with the incel position are quite obvious to people outside looking in. It’s conflicting, self-defeating (they throw up hurdles to all possible solutions) and not even numerically possible when looking at dating markets."
Projection, much?
DeleteToo feminist didn't want to read it. Incels are more like 70-90% of the population in the first world.
DeleteAs a man who follows MGTOW, I want to remind the Incels here that they're not the only ones who are getting the rough end of the stick from the opposite sex in this day and age. They'll find that they're part of the majority of heterosexual men in the Anglosphere and the Western world (80%-95%) who are dismissed and/or ignored by 99.99% of heterosexual women in the Anglosphere and the West for not being "rich" enough or "good looking" enough or "powerful" enough for their high and mighty standards.
DeleteAlso, that same 99.99% of heterosexual women in the Anglosphere and the West have effectively priced themselves out of the dating market and the only heterosexual men they show any interest in are the top 5%-20% of men (they even chase after the top 1% of men).
In closing, I will remind all men here that male virginity isn't real as there's no physical indicators for it like in female virginity. If male virginity was real, we all ceased to be virgins the moment we hit puberty and masturbated for the first time.
If any of you are relying on your left and right hand for sexual release in this day and age, then you are doing alright. With the way the vast majority of women in the Anglosphere and the West have priced themselves out of the dating market as well as have the full force of the law, fourth-wave feminism, #MeToo and #TimesUp to destroy an innocent man's life with next to no reason/evidence, your left and right hand becomes more preferable to getting laid with Anglosphere/Western women.
The rich get richer economically and sexually...
Deletethat quora textwall is a bunch of strawmanning horse shit, no incel is demanding such stringent criteria. If I were Rookh I would delete it, but its his blog comment section.
ReplyDeleteThe quora article is utter nonsense, because male SMV is far lower than female SMV; yet the article treats the sexes as equivalent. Male sexlessness in the Anglosphere is entirely the product of female hyper-hypergamy, as numerous dating site experiments demonstrate. This is why grannies can work as successful escorts:
ReplyDeletehttp://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-great-eye-opener-are-mgtow-and-wall.html
Yeah I thought the same, there are many posts like this not only on Quora but all over the internet. I suppose there will be official articles like this post all over the internet that will try and gaslight men as a last resort before the blackpill finally becomes generally realized and accepted in mainstream media.
DeleteJust like Winston wu from happierabroad said, even men with low SMV who Moves abroad could have the worst qualities but can still land a decent woman . When I read that Quora post, I knew it was total garbage but I just had to bring it hear to get your opinion!
When I visited Toronto for p4p, there were dozens of FOB Indian guys flaunting thousands of dollars for sex with fat FOB Russian MILFs who were over 50.
DeleteSome of the figures cited in that article seem very dated. For example,
Delete*The number of incels is actually a tiny fraction*
is not true if 28% of US males under 30 are incels.
Additionally, many 'sex-having' males are really escortcels, which distorts the figures somewhat. The article assumes that M/F SMVs (or behaviours) are equivalent, when they are objectively distinct:
*Most single men and women go through cycles of forming relationships and breaking up, moving in and out of the available single numbers.*
The stuff about virginity being a 'choice' is also unsubstantiated, as well as denying the obvious fact of gender difference.
quora is a gaslighting strawmanning controlled oppision site rumored to be the spawn of the military intelligence creeps at Langley and other black sites. I suppose the mere URL for this sewage is impractical to post if one has to log in to read the crap beyond preview mode.
ReplyDeleteModern womyn buy real estate with OnlyFans:
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What a fat, ugly critter!
DeleteA pig like that could only flourish showing her ass in the Anglosphere, where female SMV is artificially inflated by #metoo and puritanical repression.
The economy has to crash.
DeleteI am skeptical of claims made by OnlyFans. It would be in their interest to inflate what can be made.
DeleteSavannah Solo identifies as a lesbian, yet has MEN funding her lifestyle.
ReplyDelete$3 MILLION for this dirty ass and pussy?
ReplyDeletehttps://thotsbay.com/content/photos/964c8d0c6f1e31e3962809e1028099ca.jpg
Shocking, in all ways.
DeleteThey hate me for my skin color
ReplyDeleteYet want me to subscribe to an ethot
Boomer Hoomer Coomer
nationalist
Lynch a black man on false tips
from a naked Anglobitch fucking tots
I hate the feds, the local fucking cops
Colored men too short
to be part of the top
one percent of Chads on Tinder
We ain't want an Anglobitch
put down the gun
Trump voting mass shooder.
The Anglobitch unleash her dog
DeleteOn a poor Black fellow that she MOG
Then calls the feds to cuff him up
And march him off in Satan's grip
She hurries home to suck a tot
An' show her butt cheeks like a thot
Then into work to practice law
An' pull the same tricks as before
Pullin' her rank on poor ethnic men
An sendin' them back to jail again
But truth be tol', she just a pain
Who smells like fido in da rain
Blind her eyes with battery acid
An' turn her ugly carcass rancid
I have to wonder how women would react if all the contempt they have for men were reflected on them? They wouldn't like it.
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